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   <title>Things you must know.(O-RW) : Leaving for the summer condensed tips^</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2477">2609rockenhause</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Leaving for the summer condensed tips^<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May/02/2013 at 12:38pm<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-themecolor: dark2"><?:namespace prefix = "o" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><O:P>&nbsp;</O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:07 PM<BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-themecolor: dark2">Tips for preparing a home for summer in Arizona.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-themecolor: dark2"><O:P>&nbsp;</O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Closing down a house in the desert preparing for 120 deg temperatures and sand storms is a little different than winterizing a Motor Home. To save money and prevent possible trouble from leaking pipes and power surges in storms in the monsoon season in <?:namespace prefix = "st1" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><ST1:CITY w:st="&#111;n"><ST1:PLACE w:st="&#111;n">Mesa</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> we have the power and water turned off after we leave. The power saves us &nbsp;$17/mo but the water and sewer, even if we do not use a drop of water the charge is $57/month. They turn off the water for free and charge $30 to turn it back on. Not hard to figure 5 or 6 months of shutdown is a good savings. For those that don’t know the drill, Clean the batteries in the golf cart, fill all cells with water and charge to max, then disconnect the wires so that one wire is off every battery terminal, drain the toilets, remove the ball cock, and with the toilets dry pour in Rv antifreeze into the bowl and trap. Sewer bugs crawl the sewers and crawl up in the drains and will not crawl thru propylene glycol. &nbsp;You seal every drain, and saran wrap the toilets just in case the bugs come thru the traps and to prevent evaporation. Then put &nbsp;5 gallon pails of water in most rooms and a couple 40 gallon trash buckets lined with a plastic bag and fill with water and leave in the house for moisture. Trash cans got 25 gallons of water each. Last fall there was about 2” of water in both of the large trash barrels and the 5 gallon pails were empty. Oh we put a couple tablespoons of Clorox in each bucket to prevent bacteria from growing. There is the usual vacuuming and washing rugs to discourage cockroaches and other nasty bugs. We spray the outside of the house with insecticide that is supposed to last for 12 months and spray any weeds trying to come thru the stones that make it thru the &nbsp;heavy black plastic under the stones. </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by 2609rockenhause - May/18/2013 at 11:50am</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 12:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Resident offered Services (O/RW) : house checks</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1886">1935carlson</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> house checks<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April/27/2013 at 2:25pm<br /><br />house checking<div>I do house checks while you are away. </div><div>Check exterior once a week, check&nbsp;out side watering systerms,&nbsp;unless there is a storm I will check the house after the storm. Check interior every other week make sure traps are full. On call from security if there is&nbsp;some thing that need&nbsp;immediate attention. Golf cart charging &amp; water adding.</div><div>Callme at 480-290-9436 for a quote &amp; scope of service e-mail up dates</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by 1935carlson - May/09/2013 at 3:35pm</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>LW District 7 (O-RO) : district meeting 4/11/13</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1289">1327collier</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> district meeting 4/11/13<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April/08/2013 at 9:07am<br /><br />District 7 meeting on Thursday.  8:30 in Ballroom, Rec 1<br />Please try to attend.  We need all owners and interested renters.  Coffee will be served.<br />Jan Collier<br />1327]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>District 3 Email Slot(R-RW)^ : Thursday deadline to confirm</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=643">0651miller</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Thursday deadline to confirm<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April/01/2013 at 8:12pm<br /><br /><br />District 3 Announcement<br /><br />TO:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;All District 3 Members<br />FROM:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Your Social Committee<br />WHAT:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bar-b-q pulled pork or chicken on a kaiser bun, baked beans, cole slaw, cake and coffee &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />WHEN:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tuesday, April 9, 201<br />WHERE:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rec 1 Ballroom; Meeting @ 4:30pm, BYOB 5:00pm & Dinner 5:30pm<br />WHY:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To attend a fun-filled Social and final Meeting until October and to support your LW Community initiatives.<br />COST:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;$8.00 per person**<br />**Checks to be made payable to our District Treasurer, Tom Clark.  <br />An envelope is available for drop off at Manor 587. <br /><br />Ticket purchase deadline: Thursday, April 4, 2013.<br /><br />For more information contact:<br />John Miller, District Vice Chair<br />480-981-1955<br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>District 3 Email Slot(R-RW)^ : Dinner Reminder</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=643">0651miller</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Dinner Reminder<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March/29/2013 at 8:03am<br /><br /><br />District 3 Announcement<br /><br />TO:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;All District 3 Members<br />FROM:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Your Social Committee<br />WHAT:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bar-b-q pulled pork or chicken on a kaiser bun, baked beans, cole slaw,cake and coffee &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />WHEN:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;April 9, 2013<br /><br />WHERE:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rec 1 Ballroom; Meeting @ 4:30pm, BYOB 5:00pm & Dinner 5:30pm<br /><br />WHY:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To attend a fun-filled Social and final Meeting until October and to support your LW Community initiatives.<br /><br />COST:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;$8.00 per person**<br />**Checks to be made payable to our District Treasurer, Tom Clark.  <br />An envelope is available for drop off at Manor 587. <br /><br />Ticket purchase deadline: Thursday, April 4, 2013.<br /><br />For more information contact:<br />John Miller, District Vice Chair<br />480-981-1955<br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>LW Republican Club (O/RW) : Republican Club Meeting This Monday Evening</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=630">0638peterman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Republican Club Meeting This Monday Evening<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March/24/2013 at 5:16pm<br /><br />We have a very interesting Republican Club meeting planned for you this Monday evening, 7:00 PM, in the Theatre.  Meeting in the Theatre allows us to take advantage of the electronics and internet access that is available there. <br /><br />We will open our program with a short video teaser by Dinesh D'Souza, the filmmaker of last years blockbuster documentary "2016 Obama's America".  He is creating along with well known Hollywood producers a film promoting the greatness of a free enterprise America.  This film will be released in the summer of 2014.  In addition, we will follow with a 9+ minute video of his stirring presentation at the recent CPAC conference in Washington, DC.<br /><br />Our guest speaker is Wendy Rogers, a 2014 candidate for the US Congress.  Mrs Rogers has a most impressive resume' that includes successful businesswoman, multiple college degrees, home schooling of children, and having been a pilot in today's US Air Force.<br /><br />Following that will be several short presentations on political topics but most importantly a discussion on "Does the GOP need an overhaul, and if so, does the RNC determine what is going to change?"<br /><br />Come join us and have an impact on our discussions!<br /><br />Neil Peterman<br />Chairman, LW Republican Club]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>District 3 Email Slot(R-RW)^ : District 3 April Dinner</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=643">0651miller</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> District 3 April Dinner<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March/22/2013 at 3:07pm<br /><br /><br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;District 3 Announcement<br /><br />TO: District 3 Members<br />FROM: Your Social Committee<br /><br />WHAT:  Bar-b-q pulled pork or chicken on a bun, baked beans, coleslaw, cake and coffee &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />WHEN:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;April 9, 2013<br />WHERE:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rec 1 Ballroom; Meeting @ 4:30pm, BYOB 5:00pm & Dinner 5:30pm<br /><br />WHY:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To attend a fun-filled Social and final Meeting until October and to support your LW Community initiatives.<br /><br />COST:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;$8.00 per person**<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;**Checks to be made payable to our District Treasurer, Tom Clark.  <br />An envelope is available for drop off at Manor 587. <br /><br />Ticket purchase deadline: Thursday, April 4, 2013.<br /><br />For more information contact:<br />John Miller, District Vice Chair<br />480-981-1955<br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Service Recommendations.(O-RW) : Painting^</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=390">0385altena</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Painting^<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March/19/2013 at 8:53am<br /><br /><div></div><div></div>&nbsp; MARCH 19 2013<div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp; <dd ="hdr-info"> <ul ="inline-items" aria-labelledby="hdr-from"> <li> <span ="lozengeC&#111;ntainer"> <span ="btn lozenge small left " -="c&#111;ntact-card-menu" -name="dwunsch@cox.net" -address="dwunsch@cox.net"> <a href="http://ca.mg3.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.gx=0&amp;.rand=a23e7m3k7k0fa#" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">dwunsch@cox.net</font></a> </span><span ="btn lozenge lozengeadd right small btn-kiosk-addc&#111;ntact" -="modal" -name="dwunsch@cox.net" -address="dwunsch@cox.net"> <a title="Add dwunsch@cox.net to your C&#111;ntacts &#091;Shift+A&#093;" role="" ="0"> <b></b></a> </span> </span> </li> </ul></dd><dt id="hdr-to" ="hdr-info">To</dt><dd ="hdr-info"> <ul id="msg-er-to" ="inline-items" aria-labelledby="hdr-to"> <li> <span ="lozengeC&#111;ntainer"> <span ="btn lozenge small left " -="c&#111;ntact-card-menu" -name="communitypost" -address="lwcommunitypost@yahoogroups.com"> <a href="http://ca.mg3.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.gx=0&amp;.rand=a23e7m3k7k0fa#" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">communitypost</font></a> </span><span ="btn lozenge lozengeadd right small btn-kiosk-addc&#111;ntact" -="modal" -name="communitypost" -address="lwcommunitypost@yahoogroups.com"> <a title="Add lwcommunitypost@yahoogroups.com to your C&#111;ntacts" role="" ="0"> <b></b></a> </span> </span> </li> <li> <span ="lozengeC&#111;ntainer"> <span ="btn lozenge small left right " -="c&#111;ntact-card-menu" -name="lwcapost" -address="lwcapost@yahoogroups.com"> <a href="http://ca.mg3.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.gx=0&amp;.rand=a23e7m3k7k0fa#" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">lwcapost</font></a> </span> </span> </li></ul></dd> <div id="yui_3_7_2_1_1363707623511_7691" ="msg- inner  undo" role="main" aria-label="Message "><div style=": ; : -5;"> </div><div id="yiv795339306"><div id="yui_3_7_2_1_1363707623511_7690"><span style="display: n&#111;ne;"> </span><!--~-|**|PrettyStartT|**|-~--><div id="yiv795339306ygrp-mlmsg"><div id="yiv795339306ygrp-msg"><!--~-|**|PrettyEndT|**|-~--><div id="yiv795339306ygrp-text"><p id="yui_3_7_2_1_1363707623511_7693">A "big thanks" to Jack Young Painting.     Jack, and his crew, painted the exterior of our home a couple of days ago.   He did a great job, very thorough, excellent job and reasonable.   Many kudos to Jack.<br><br>Dave &amp; Brenda Wunsch   #912<br></p></div><!--~-|**|PrettyStart|**|-~--><div style="height: 0px; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">__._,_.___</div></div></div></div></div></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Service Recommendations.(O-RW) : restaurants^</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=390">0385altena</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> restaurants^<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March/19/2013 at 8:52am<br /><br /><div></div><div></div>&nbsp; MARCH 19 2013<div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp; <dt id="hdr-to" ="hdr-info">To</dt><dd ="hdr-info"> <ul id="msg-er-to" ="inline-items" aria-labelledby="hdr-to"> <li> <span ="lozengeC&#111;ntainer"> <span ="btn lozenge small left right " -="c&#111;ntact-card-menu" -name="lwcapost@yahoogroups.com" -address="lwcapost@yahoogroups.com"> <a href="http://ca.mg3.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.gx=0&amp;.rand=a23e7m3k7k0fa#" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">lwcapost@yahoogroups.com</font></a> </span> </span> </li></ul></dd> <div id="yui_3_7_2_1_1363707623511_7339" ="msg- inner  undo" role="main" aria-label="Message "><div style=": ; : -5;"> </div><div id="yiv1173445342"><div id="yui_3_7_2_1_1363707623511_7338"><span style="display: n&#111;ne;"> </span><!--~-|**|PrettyStartT|**|-~--><div id="yiv1173445342ygrp-mlmsg"><div id="yiv1173445342ygrp-msg"><!--~-|**|PrettyEndT|**|-~--><div id="yiv1173445342ygrp-text"><p id="yui_3_7_2_1_1363707623511_7342">Went to new restaurant  Over Easy this morning for brunch.   Great. <br><br> On Southern on south side just outside Leisure World. Open from  6:00AM <br>till 2:PM.   <br><br>They focus on breakfast.  We recommend it.<br><br>John Ruth<br>Manor  1659        <br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Service Recommendations.(O-RW) : Dentists/Dental hygiene/Mexico dentists^</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://lwazcc.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=390">0385altena</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Dentists/Dental hygiene/Mexico dentists^<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March/19/2013 at 8:51am<br /><br /><div></div><div></div>&nbsp; MARCH 19 2013<div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp; <dt id="hdr-to" ="hdr-info">To</dt><dd ="hdr-info"> <ul id="msg-er-to" ="inline-items" aria-labelledby="hdr-to"> <li> <span ="lozengeC&#111;ntainer"> <span ="btn lozenge small left right " -="c&#111;ntact-card-menu" -name="lwcapost@yahoogroups.com" -address="lwcapost@yahoogroups.com"> <a href="http://ca.mg3.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.gx=0&amp;.rand=a23e7m3k7k0fa#" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">lwcapost@yahoogroups.com</font></a> </span> </span> </li></ul></dd> <div id="yui_3_7_2_1_1363707623511_6651" ="msg- inner  undo" role="main" aria-label="Message "><div style=": ; : -5;"> </div><div id="yiv549955850"><div id="yui_3_7_2_1_1363707623511_6650"><span style="display: n&#111;ne;"> </span><!--~-|**|PrettyStartT|**|-~--><div id="yiv549955850ygrp-mlmsg"><div id="yiv549955850ygrp-msg"><!--~-|**|PrettyEndT|**|-~--><div id="yiv549955850ygrp-text"><p id="yui_3_7_2_1_1363707623511_6649">Hello everyone, <br><br>I have received a couple of requests to post the information on the dentist recommendations people have sent me.  <br><br>Here they are:<br><br>1 vote for Dr Michael Crockett<br>1 vote for Dr Panelli -  2824 Power Rd Ste #108;  480 641 4567<br>2 votes for Smiles on Southern (Dr Shin)  - 5432 E. Southern Ave Ste #108;  480 807 8100<br>1 vote for A.T. Still Dental School -  on Baseline, just W. of Power Rd (actually Still Circle);  480 248 8100<br>1 vote for Dr Hasten -  6963 E Main;  480 981 3047<br>2 votes for Dr Bradley Scott -   Broadway &amp; Higley;  480 924 3446<br><br>1 vote for Dr Keith Rogers  -  55 S 63rd St Ste #1 (right out Broadway gate on 63rd); 480 830 5100<br>1 vote for Sunshine Dental Lab<br>1 vote for Dr Rick Jacobi - Family Dentistry, 31 S 63rd St Ste #5<br>1 vote for Dr Gary O. Jones - 1350 E. McKellips Rd. Ste #7;  480 834 3811<br>1 vote for Southwest Dental  (also 1 NO vote for Southwest Dental);  University &amp; Greenfield<br><br>I hope this list helps others who are also looking!<br><br>Mary Beth Peterson<br>1654<br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>]]>
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